Tuesday, 5 December 2017

Week 6 [04-10.12.2017] Shared space with Augmented reality

All of us know tools like google hangout, Skype and other platforms that allows for video conference. We also know gdrive, google docs, outlook online that allow us to collaborate with each other in real time. We can combine those tools. I'm currently doing research about a single platform that will allow to create a single session to collaborate in real time on virtual 3D objects set in our world.
Read the article: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221266488_Mixing_Realities_in_Shared_Space_An_Augmented_Reality_Interface_for_Collaborative_Computing


It is an old article but it is one of the first steps toward this goal. It shows perfectly the vision, problems and methodology.


1. What do you think about such tool ?
2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

37 comments:

  1. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    It seams to be very interesting idea. I think that especially for architects, designers and so on it might be very useful tool. It is not that easy to make it work really good, but idea itself it pretty cool. I always wanted to have some sort of holograms - either to see someone or to prezent documents or something in 3D.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    As I said mostly branch of art - designers, architects and everyone that is doing manual artistic work will be able to do this remotely. Going further probably it can be used by everyone for interaction even in social media. You could show clothes that you want to buy in 3D or what is around you. Potentially it can happen.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    Of course it does, still maybe it is to soon in terms of technology to do so, but in a while it might work on daily basis. At the beginning it will probably meet the resistance of people, but later they will get used to it, and more special devices will be created only for this purpose and another big business of technological giants will boom.

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    1. Yes, architects and designers are often the primary goal. Possibility to work with 3D objects and share them is very interesting and can reduce the cost of mockups.
      The resistance may occure but does not have to. If the UI will be similar to things that they already know the entry threshold will be low and the resistance won't be big. If the tool will bring a revolution it might have problems to be used as a common thing

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  2. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    It can be great in medicine especially in 3D USG sonograms. On this platform doctors could collaborate between each other regarding localisation in which they are.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    For surelly medicine (diagnostics, pharma), architecture comapnies, animation studios etc. So it can be used in every branch of economy where you are forced to used 3D models.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    I think that everything which can help in you work is good. Big advantage of this that you will be able to work remotly and this will reduce worker costs in companies.

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    1. Thank you Tomek for your comment. I must say that I didn't think about medicine in terms of this platform but this very good area to take into consideration.

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  3. 1. What do you think about such tool ?
    Thanks for this article.This tool could be very interesting. I think that it may be used in many applications and extend communication through video conference.
    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
    As it was already mentioned for sure medicine, architectures, designer but also game industry and entertainment. Imagine tplaying a 3D game with people all around the world. It would be fantastic.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?
    I think it does. It is another way to communicate and share things with others.

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    1. I'm making a prototype of a game that will use similar concept but to make everything simpler the UI will be much simpler than full 3D objects but yes, this is very good area for this technology

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  4. 1. What do you think about such tool?

    Thank you for an interesting article. Such a tool is a great idea. It can be used in each and every field of science and branch of trades.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    It might definitely be a fantastic tool for architects, graphic designers, artists, animators, doctors.

    3.Does it has sense from your point of view?
    Of course it does. Working and cooperating with other people in real time, sharing knowledge and experience is what working in modern companies is all about.

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    1. Trade is hard to handle cause you would need someone else to create proper objects. Not always seller has a possibility to create 3D models outside his office, often even he has no proper skills.

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  6. 1. What do you think about such tool?

    I think there is a potential in such a tool. This is what Facebook is into with their bet on VR and Oculus Rift project. Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeTqSRt3OZo. They think on how to use VR in the offices.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it?

    I think it can be used in the offices as an additional way of presenting some ideas, for interactive workshops, for discussing new products and so on.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view?

    Of course. There are a couple of things which are the hot trends right now: AR/VR, blockchain, voice assistants (AI). All from The Frightful Five (Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple) think about at least one of those things. And if they think about VR, we also should and it makes a perfect sense.

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    1. VR is much easier in this matter cause you are creating fully virtual world. It is like playing standard multiplayer game, except the video output is different. I would rather compare it to HoloLens holopresense

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  7. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    The question is if it is costless than VR or not. If isn't cheaper, I think that VR is better to use nowadays.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    Digital oriented as e-commerce, digital marketing, design and prototyping (all branches here will be affected).

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    Yes but still I can imagine that VR is more effective than augmented reality in that case.

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    1. VR and AR are two different technologies with much different target. It require a lot of hardware and has software limitation especially in terms of injecting new virtual objects. In my opinion it is not a matter of cost but of the goal that you want achieve and the way how you want to achieve it

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    2. Of course. And in case of virtual meeting, pushing the usage of AR, where VR could be more effective and affordable is pointless, unless it's cheaper.

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  8. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    It seems great, but without hands-on (eyes-on?) experience I can't be sure. It's like hearing about computer games without actually playing them, so I only can use my imagination.

    I think a video conference is already exceptionally useful as a means of communication, but physical presence enables more interaction. Adding a "shared 3D space" will allow for even more (now it will be just smell and touch that's missing).

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    All businesses can use it to do meetings, reducing the need for business travels.

    It can be used in education and training (especially the more physically oriented courses - for example trades, sports, martial arts).

    It can have uses in entertainment - multiplayer games, live action role playing, erotic industry.

    Maybe it can be used for museums and other tourist attractions - virtual tours with real human guides.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    It needs some cost benefit analysis, but... It could make a lot of sense. Right now I am using a headset which I got from my employer for the purpose of conferencing. I can't wait for the time, when I will also be getting AR hardware.

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    1. What can I say, your approach is very logical :)

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  9. 1. What do you think about such tool ?
    In my opinion it is interesting approach that has a potential to became idea for business. For instance virtual visit to the doctor would be great experience.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    As I wrote before: it can be used in a wide range of industries - starting from production area where you can use VR to inspect produced goods,through virtual training centres and ending up to mentioned health services.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    I wrote about it in 1st point. It could be a great idea for the business.

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    1. Unfortunately virtual visit of a doctor will not be compatible with this concept, at least for know. The idea is not about making a real-time hologram of everything but to predefine specific objects.

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  10. Hello,
    I have to agree with T.Sznajder. Such a solution would be extremely useful in medicine. It enabled online consultations on a real, living organism, which could help to improve the quality of diagnosis.

    There is another cool application in my opinion. Very often, at the scene of a crime (eg murder), at the present moment, a 3D scan of the scene is made, after which the experts analyze the images and try to find traces.

    Such a platform would enable cooperation of many experts on one place of experience.

    I think that each ans will find a different application for such a platform.

    Work on !!

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    1. I think medicine won't work here. It would require to make a 3D objects that corresponds with real-time data. This concept requires predefined objects that will be loaded as assets of a session

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  11. It looks very interesting. In a very futuristic vision, I could imagine unconstrained manipulation of such objects, i.e. a model would include information about all properties of a given object, about joints of individual elements etc, so you could for example disassemble that object.

    The most obvious use case as already mentioned would be a design. I've read an article about a furniture shop providing its customers with an application allowing placing 3D models of selected items in their own houses.

    It makes sense, I would like to see applications of it in online courses.

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    1. Futuristic vision ? I don't think so, article that I've provided describes one of the first approaches but it is a quite old article. We've made a huge progress over the years. I by myself created a prototype that is based on this concepts and it is close to cover 100% of the ideas. I think it is not a futuristic vision, it is rather a "here and now" idea that need to be propagated

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  12. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    It's amazing! This tool will improve our communication. When we are talking now he have to describe things and person which we are talking with can only imagine how it looks. This tool could show any object with details. That helps to avoid misunderstanding.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    Designers when have to show their project, journalists to report on events without risk and doktors which could see wounds. We shouldn't forget about entertainment! This is huge branch of industry which get many possibilities which weren't available earlier.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    It have sense and this is the future. Display 2d image isn't any challenge. I'm waiting for the next step when we could feel this objects, not only see.

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    1. The whole concept is based on 3D objects. There is nothing cool in sharing 2D ;)

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  13. 1. What do you think about such tool ?
    It is very interesting tool for collaboration and I think I will definitely use it. I am working with different teams in different locations. We are struggling with communication and collaboration. Our main tool for collaboration is Skype and video calls but we are not using camera during our sessions.
    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
    Remote employees who are building products in distributed teams.
    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?
    Very much and I love it. I think we could benefit from it and our collaboration can be better.

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    1. Yes, we have a lot of limitations in terms of current collaboration. In more complicated cases we just do not have proper tools to achieve all goals. I hope that this concept will help us

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  14. 1. What do you think about such tool ?
    of course, this is a very interesting and relevant topic for today, I think it can be applied in a variety of branches of professions, such as architects, builders, designers, and just in everyday life, also help in presentations and conferences. Fortunately, our science is already very close to the way of these technologies.
    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
    a lot of different professions, where you need to present something, show a possible project. and alternative ways of its development. I agree with a lot of professions that have already been written before me.
    3. Does it has sense from your point of view?
    Yes, I think so. this technology will find its applications in the community, quite quickly, and will help it to develop faster. Today, these technologies are just in the trend, and are in demand among companies and people. Therefore, I think that it would be appropriate to develop the AR technology faster, and look for investors and put them on the market

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    1. yes we are closer and closer. Currently the biggest problem of AR is that nobody is able to bring it to our everyday life. We have a lot of idea but we have problems with providing solutions

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  15. 1. I think it is really interesting example of combining several technological solutions to create totally new value, which potentially may be used to solve many problems, changing them for good. That’s because as a result it can improve the situation saving the resources used.
    2. All branches of industry can use it and benefit from it. It is able to replace personal meetings, in particular the serious commercial negotiations leading to establish agreements’ provisions and other deals. Especially construction branch can be interested in such solutions, because a lot of time and money is necessary to go through all the issues important from practical point of view, so as the investment could begin, and later be conducted. I mean serious international projects, engaging foreign banks and other financial units.
    3. As I mentioned above, it can be really practical and good alternative for companies working in construction branches, especially when time schedule is ambitious and the time saved this way can be a competitive advantage.

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  16. 1. What do you think about such tool ?
    It seems to be very interesting. If it would be for general use, it would definitely be a very interesting experience. I’m waiting impatiently!

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
    I think that architecture can benefit the most. Moreover usual Internet users can benefit a lot. It would be very nice to share 3D space with other people (of course in limited areas). I agree with Tomasz that it can be used where 3D technology is used.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view?
    Yes, It seems to me that it’s a good way. First of all it is a very useful tool. In addition, it can be widely used.

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  17. 1. What do you think about such tool?
    According to me, the tool is great, it allows for visualization.
    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it?
    All that deal with the product / object. eg company A produces stands for company B. This company can see the final effect before producing and delivering a prototype. the tool also seems to be good for architects.
    3. Does it have a sense of view from your point of view?
    It makes sense to me. but every tool must be evicted by the market.

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  18. Thank you for an interesting article. These tools are very interesting and give great hope for the future. You are asking about branches of industry – the preceding speakers have written so much that I will give an example from another field. Recently, I have read that this technology is interesting for the army and police - in my opinion it makes sense and has enormous potential in these services – especally for conducting realistic and effective training. In addition, this type of insruments have a huge capability and will be used in the future.

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  19. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    It is great idea. Working in the remote projects requires using many tools to collaborate, and sometimes the possibilities that such tools give us are insufficient.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    In my opinion all the areas where there is designing, creating and constructing. So it includes IT, architecture, industrial designing, art and many many more.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    From the point of view of the person working remotely all the time it has a lot of sense. It would make work easier and enabled to explain more directly the complicated 3D concepts.

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  20. Hello!
    1. What do you think about such tool ?
    Right direction. Downside is monocular camera used in presented paper. Things progressed in great paces and now we can have something like Epson’s Moviero series, with bright OLED overlay displays, precise inertial tracking and depth sensors.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
    Entertainment, mailnly. Things like “The Eye of Judgment” or “Eye Pet” for PlayStation3 or “AR Effect” for Xperia Android phones. It’s still loses the stereoscopic vision, but on the other hand needs no special equipment and it seems to suffice for now. Also collaboration on design of 3D objects – civil engineers, architects, industrial designers. For serious work, dedicated smart glasses are necessary.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?
    In my opinion it has at least one great feature not mentioned above: practically infinite resolution. It really makes a difference in perception of object when instead of zooming in and out on the screen one can simply move closer to virtual object in real space. I love this feeling when in VR – examined objects seem so incredibly detailed, it’s pretty much divorced from actual resolution of the headset.
    Nowadays it’s possible to use almost any object as marker – we can automatically extract visual cues to allow for precise tracking. For example, the team can organize an ad hoc meeting and span a bridge between 2 coins on the desktop, and point to its parts while all participants see finger pointing exactly the same part. And they still can chat with zero latency and see each other clearly, use their computers or notebooks – I can see a great boost in speed and simplicity of exchange of thoughts here.

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  21. 1. What do you think about such tool ?
    In this particular case, sky is the limit. I think we can do almost anything, design architecture, engines, planes or very small things like furniture etc.
    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?
    Almost every branch, apart from humanities. They are far from being creative in this way. I can hardly see the point of using such technology while writing a book :D
    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?
    It does. In good hands, it can be very useful. I hope it won't end as another idea and gadget like 3d tv's and so on.

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  22. I wonder why this brilliant idea is not realized for passing almost tventy years. The most similar project comes into my mind is Google Glass and the Google Maps. In my prediction this technology is about to come.

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  23. 1. What do you think about such tool ?

    I think it would be not useful for many years. Introduction of new technology to the market is long process. At first market should offer a wide range of specialised applications dedicated for a specific groups of specialists.

    2. What branches of industry can benefit from it ?

    Construction, sale, entertainment.. and many others.

    3. Does it has sense from your point of view ?

    I don't know if sharing 3D visualisation is so important in online cooperation. I think that in comlex branches it is more important to understand many 2D visualisations than seeing one in 3D.

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