Dear Friends;
The disease I'm talking about below has affected many of our friends. In my opinion, this's one of the major problems of the 21st century. I don't know if children affect parents that way, but the article interested me. It may also interest you. I hope.
Read "Depressive symptoms in parents are associated with reduced empathy toward their young children" https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0230636 , think and answer a few questions ...
1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
Best regards
1. By all means, yes. Over the past few years, we have been hearing more and more about people diagnosed with depression, about how to help such people, how to understand them better and not to compare them to people who are sad for some reason, only to see them as suffering from a real disease that is difficult to treat. In addition, every now and again we hear about actors or singers who took their lives because they suffered from depression and watching interviews with them we would never think that they are at war with their own thoughts, because they are mostly cheerful and smiling people.
ReplyDelete2. Yes I know. And as far as I know, they take drugs for depression and one of them is a cheerful person, the other for example shows that she could suffer from depression if someone did not know that he is actually sick.
3. I think that in some social media pretending to be depressed causes more attention, and some people desperately seek this attention. I think that many of us often say when he feels bad or goes wrong, that "I will fall into depression soon" or "I feel like I am depressed", and just someone has a weaker day. Everyone happens to be in a bad mood, the world, especially during a pandemic, can hit everyone with hopelessness. Personally, I do not like people who pretend to be depressed, because because of this society thinks that it is a figment of the present generation and not a real disease by which people die.
4. I think quite a lot. I am not very good at it, I am not a doctor, but I know the case that a psychologist told a patient with depression that he was inventing it and that he should just smile and that it was nothing. We should be more aware that it is a disease and encourage people who we suspect may suffer from it to consult a specialist.
5. I don't have children, so it's hard to say. However, I will quote a controversial opinion of my colleague. He believes that if parents are not able to withstand at home with their own children for several hours, are they sure they should have these children. The same applies to being in quarantine with my husband or wife 24 hours a day. If we are not able to stand with someone we have created or to whom we gave our lives to these several hours, was our choice right? I will add immediately that we know that everyone has enough of the other person sometimes and we like to be alone because everyone wants to have time for themselves, so I think that it is possible to survive somehow. The first days are always difficult, then you get used to it.
Thank you very much for your valuable insights. I'm also glad that you have the view that I'm, that it's a 21st century disease. I really came across this disease personally in my family and it isn't sweet at all. Advice smile, have fun, etc. have no result. Without treatment, it wouldn't be possible to get out of it.
DeleteHowever, as to the habit, it rather doesn't cement the relationship. Boredom kills just like routine and just habit.
1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteToday, most people in the world live in conditions where they do not have to worry about providing basic needs for life. So we can pay more attention to our mental health. It is said that depression is a disease of our time and I agree that people are getting less and less able to cope with their own psyche.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
I don't know anyone who is diagnosed with depression (or I don't know about it), but I'm sure that each of us meets such people almost every day.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
Some people are always in a bad mood and tell themselves it is depression. They don't try to do anything about it or get psychological advice.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
As I have already mentioned, there are a huge number of such cases in the world. It is difficult to estimate in some way but I think that this number will get worse. I think it can be linked to the number of suicides in individual countries.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
I think children should never depress a parent. The bond that should be created in such a relationship should allow for the sharing of positive but also negative feelings and mutual understanding.
Yes, that's why I was intrigued by research about children, especially small, depressed parents. My children never did that. Rather, they always cemented my family. I really enjoyed the last month when I was sitting at home on a remote job. From tomorrow I'm going back to "normal" as much work as possible. I'm curious how it will be. In a mask, gloves, 2 meters from other employees.
DeleteIt will be either a nice or not nice experience.
1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteThe concept of depression was already known in the times of Hippocrates, back then called melancholy. This psychological disorder accompanies man for a long time, but every year there are more and more sick people. According to WHO it’s second most common disease and utile 2030 it will be on a first place. Exact causes of depression are unknown but, a number of things are often linked to its development. Depression usually results from a combination of recent events and other longer-term or personal factors, rather than one immediate issue or event. Probably the constantly increasing rate of our life's and daily level of stress make us more prone to fell ill.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
No, personally I don’t know anybody who suffered from depression.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
It’s easy to superficially asses someone else’s situation and assume that he or she is faking depression. Even if in many cases it’s true that someone is not truly ill and just want to take advantages of a situation and a fact that depression is hard to diagnose we have to take it seriously. Situation that for one may look like nothing worth worrying about for other can be very serious crisis.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
I think there is a plenty of undiagnosed cases a lot of people still don’t have awareness of this disease and they are not looking for a help for themselves. Unfortunately very often people from the immediate surroundings don’t pay attention to symptoms of depression with their loved ones or they assume they are pretending. Fortunately there is more and more campaigns to raise social awareness of the depression, so maybe it will change something.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
According to the article there is a difference in empathic response between parents and people who don’t have children. Difference are also observe between mothers and fathers, these findings suggest that depression is associated with differences in empathic responses, however the specificity of these associations is remains unclear.
Thank you for a short historical overview. He intrigued me and I read more about it.
DeleteYes, the approach in this document is unclear, but are many scientific discoveries clear at the beginning? Usually, what is new is unclear and unbelievable.
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ReplyDelete1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteYes, I think depression is a disease of the 21st century. But unfortunately I didn’t live in other centuries to say with confidence that there was no depression before. Most likely, due to a more difficult life - people did not have time to comprehend life.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
A year ago, I got very severe insomnia (just like in a fight club;)) and looked for help from a lot of doctors until I went to a psychoanalyst, they diagnosed me with depression and were prescribed pills and psychological therapy. Today I feel much better, but I still take pills
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
Yes, I have friends who ascribe various diseases to themselves, whether it’s depression or bipolar disorder - attributing fleeting apathy to depression.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
Once I looked at Ted and there was one speaker who said that there are no psychologically healthy people in the world, just everyone has different diseases and different degrees.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
I do not have children to give an extensive answer to this question, but in relation to my father - I think so
Thank you for your honesty. When it comes to people claiming different diseases, you are right. It's getting harder to live so people have more and more difficult experiences. It's good when a person starts to realize that he can be sick. Worse if not. It's like alcoholics.
Delete1. Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteI think depression is a 21st century disease. Many people have depression. Some of them commit suicide. Sometimes on Internet or newspaper we can read about young people that tried kill himself because they didn't want to live. Depression is dangerous and people with them need our help.
2. Do you know people who have suffered depression?
I know people who have suffered depression. My grandmother and grandfather had depression. With help of doctor and family they overcame her.
3. Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
I don’t meet people with imaginary depression.
4. How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
I think many people have depression but they don’t know it. Only the nearest family, friends can detect depression because they know each other. We need much to talk to each other and try to help people with problems.
5. Do children really depress their parents so much?
I think it’s all depends on relationship between them. If family spends a lot of time and do many things together then depression will never be a problem. We need to talk with each other and try to help children solve problems. They need to know that parents are there to help. Sometimes young people don’t want have children. They are not ready. They don’t like children. They have problems to communicate with children and have many problems with them. This could providing to depression.
It's intriguing that each of us met with this disease. Everyone in a different age or different circumstances. It's cool what you wrote. Only family or good friends will help you realize that you are sick and fight it. Thanks.
Delete1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteI agree with previous statements about depression and its effects. We live in very dynamic times, we must quickly adapt to new situations. More and more people are chasing a career, money and quite often children go to the background. I can see it on my example, because having a small child (meeting the age criteria from the article) I often turn on the fairy tale on YT and work remotely instead of playing with him. I hope that in the future he will forgive me the time taken, which I justify as working for his good.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
Personally, I have not met people who have been diagnosed with depression. Perhaps I do not know it, or these people are ashamed of it.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
I believe that depression is a disease and should not be treated as a means to achieve certain goals. In my opinion, pretending to be someone not only suffering from depression causes more empathy for the local environment, which can make life easier for someone. Quite often you can observe such behavior on social media, television, etc.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
Of course, the exact number cannot be determined. Many people hide it, some exaggerate their symptoms. A specialist should decide on each case, unfortunately this is not always possible (due to the lack of a minimum number of specialists). What is certain is that the number of cases diagnosed will grow fairly rapidly in the future. The main reason is the momentum of life.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
In my opinion it depends on the parents' approach, their parenting experience and dealing with difficult situations. Quite often we are able to blame our failures on others (even children). Justifying yourself that way. On the other hand, children will cause us positive reactions that should reduce our frustration at work or family. There are also many other ways to fight stress, e.g. exercise, listening to your favorite music, maybe a shower or a hot bath.
He'll probably forgive you. Just don't lose yourself in remote work, because it really is a moment that you can use to stay with your child. A fairy tale on YT will not solve his problems. It will only let you catch your breath. Assume 10 minutes of play with your child for each hour of work. And forward.
Delete1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteThe problem is serious and even more serious than the virus. Every day in Poland 13 people take their own lives. As many as 12 of them are men. And yet, there is much less talk of suicide victims than, for example, road accident victims, who are three times less. In Poland there is an additional problem with appointments to the psychiatrist, which are far away, somewhere around 3 months are waiting for an appointment, and queues are long, because doctors are supposed to receive a patient every 15 minutes, when the visit lasts around 30, sometimes longer, you wait in line for 2-3 hours usually. Children's psychiatry is in agonal state, wards and hospitals are being closed, it will only get worse. Psychiatric hospitals are also a failure, you lie down in a room with a few people when you need peace and quiet.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
I was once with a girl who treated depression. Hard to get through at times. There were days when it was great, and there were days when my heart was breaking, that I couldn't help it. She finally went to therapy and she got better.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
When we hear "depression" we immediately see in front of the eyes of a man nailed down, sad, considering "whether it all makes any sense" and wondering whether to end up together right away. The fact is that depression can take on this form, but it doesn't have to. Under this diagnostic category there is a whole range of behaviors, and we may find, for example, that we have someone who is depressed and who can also be happy and joyful in certain areas. Does this mean that someone is pretending to be depressed? That he poses? No, it's just that depression is a more complex problem than just "feeling sad".
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
According to the latest statistics. Today, 350 million people suffer from depression, of which 1.5 million in Poland. In the USA, the number of the diagnosed is growing by 20% every year. It concerns people of all ages, from teenagers and even children to seniors. And in every age range its symptoms are characterised by something different. Only half of the patients are treated.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
I think Baby Blues is more appropriate. Although Baby Blues is not in any disease classification. This syndrome is rather a syndrome of specific symptoms, related to mood swings of a young mother. Baby blues manifests itself, for example, as a guilty conscience that one is an angry and miserable mother; sadness and depression; nervousness, anxiety, uncertainty in the role of the mother, impatience, irritation. Baby blues is not a disease, so it does not have to be treated pharmacologically or psychiatrically, but has a physiological background that can cause birth depression.
With each subsequent post I get the impression that I have raised a rather significant social problem. I think that's good. You can see that each of us had contact with a sick person and this disease. You provide interesting stay arts related to the incidence of illnesses. Is there really such a high increase in incidence each year?
DeleteHello,
ReplyDeleteThank you for that subject. According to your questions:
1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st-century disease?
I think that this is a huge issue that we need to deal with. According to the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, currently, in Poland, 3% of the population is diagnosed with depression. However, this percentage could be much higher, as they assume, because of the lack of diagnosis.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
Yes, at least three friends of mine were diagnosed with depression.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
No, I don't.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
Statistics are saying about 25% of the population, but who knows the truth?
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
Yes! The most bright example could be postpartum depression that has a frequency~15% of births.
Thank you, another handful of valuable information. I don't want to repeat myself, but the problem seems to be quite big and significant.
DeleteI'm starting to think that the sculpture is looking more closely around. Maybe just now one of your friends needs help.
Depression indeed may be a huge problem nowadays. It's completely biased opinion but it seems like parenting trends from last few decades increased unrealistic believes and expectations about the world in generations of kids. The kids are now becoming adults and realize that many things are not as they were promised. There are also many unfavorable external factors like difficult economical environment, devaluation of the education on the job market and general isolation caused by technological advanced allowing for comfortable substitution of contact with person by text chat or video conference. In such environment even simple things may seem overwhelming or senseless.
ReplyDeleteI don't know anyone with a diagnosed depression.
Probably there is a very wide spectrum of depression, I think it's being diagnosed based on declarative statements of a patient so it may be difficult to clearly say that this person have a depression and that doesn't. So depending on how relaxed the definition of depression is there could be millions of diagnosed cases.
Another vote for yes. It's a serious illness which I hope will not affect me. But actually diagnosing this disease is a very difficult task.
DeleteWe used AI to diagnose many times here on this blog. Maybe for this phenomenon, someone will someday use AI. Then it will be easier ... maybe.
1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteI think it might be. I don't think there is one single reason. One might be that we are now perceiving whole world while still our actions have local results. This might cause feeling of senselessness maybe. But is it enough? It might be some strain of gut bacteria that spreads among populations causing depression for some people as well.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
Probably - I do, but I don't know who that would be. I can't even imagine conversation flow that would lead to someone confess to me "I had a depression".
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
Also I don't think so.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
I'm not sure we can draw a distinct line where depression starts. I've heard that it causes visible changes in brain activity and chemistry, but are those changes binary? Probably not. So I think there is a continuum between "no depression at all" all the way down to "severe depression". Depending where from we count, we'd get different estimations of undiagnosed cases count.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
I think yes, for many people it's the first time they can screw up something that is really important. And also sleep deprivation, and "irrational" behavior of very young children.
The strain of bacteria sounds good. But what if it isn't a bacterial strain but, for example, an intracellular change? I think that such changes are not yet investigated. This is certainly a song of the future.
Delete1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteOf course I do - depression can lead to suicide, it should also be noted that despite the fact that globally the number of suicides in 2010-2016 decreased by almost 10 percent. Only 38 countries in the world can boast of a government anti-suicide program.Unfortunately, Poland leads the way in Europe when it comes to the successful number of suicides.The disproportion between the sexes may be astonishing - Polish women take their lives relatively rarely (6th best result in the EU), unlike men (4th from the end)
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
Yes, I know such people. Of course, I do not want to give details of someone's illness.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
To be honest, I've never heard of something like imaginary depression.
However, I know that depression can be divided into Endogenous - is a form of depression that is caused by irregularities in the functioning of the human body, and into Exogenous -is a form of depression that is caused by external factors.
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
I have heard of one study related to this question.
In 2003 It was found that 57.4% of respondents have experienced mental disorders in the past and that 32.4% suffered from them during the year preceding the study.
I think that today the situation can only be worse.
And there is another mathematical model stating that in 2139 only the crazy people will live in the world:
https://re-research.pl/pl/post/2016-10-29-70001-w-2139-beda-na-swiecie-sami-warjaci.html
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
Personally, I can't imagine having a child, and certainly this situation would lead me to depression because of both egoistic and altruistic reasons.
I can add that children in restaurants, buses and planes can also lead maybe not to depression but to neurosis I tell you.
1) Do you think that depression outside COVID-19 is a 21st century disease?
ReplyDeleteI'm not a doctor, so it's hard to say if depression is a disease of the 21st century. Certainly COVID-19 can be called a 21st century disease. I hope there won't be any plague after COVID-19. When it comes to depression, I think that some persons do have physiological predispositions for it. I also think that some people are convinced that they have depression and that they don't really have it – it is not medically confirmed. Sometimes if someone is in a bad mood or is unlucky they say they are depressed. You can also find information on the Internet that some doctors falsely tell patients that they are depressed in order to charge them for subsequent visits. Nevertheless, depression is becoming more frequent for young people who do not believe in themselves and have no support.
2) Do you know people who have suffered depression?
Fortunately, I don't know people who suffer from depression.
3) Some of our friends have imaginary depression, have you met such?
Yes, I met with such a phenomenon. As I mentioned in the answer to question number 1 - there are people who think that they have depression basing on various failures in their life or if they do not accept themselves. They tell themselves that they are depressed because they are looking for an incorrect explanation. Of course, sometimes it happens that someone is joking, that he is depressed because, for example, today he did not pass the exam, and tomorrow morning he gets up and forgets that yesterday he had "one day depression".
4) How do you think how many undiagnosed cases of depression walk on the ground?
I don't know, it's hard to predict how many people who say they have depression actually have it but have not yet been to the doctor, and how many people think that they have depression. I think there are also people who are afraid of depression and tell themselves that they are not depressed and do not need to see a doctor.
5) Do children really depress their parents so much ;-)?
I don't know because I don't have children. It seems that children are not subject to the depression of their parents, but they probably happen differently. Children are not always loved by their parents. Sometimes children are born unwanted.