This week is my time to indulge you. Here is a subject for all of you..
The subject is probably well known by all of you. Personally I am interest in this field of work and I would like to know your point of view on this kind of work.
The Crowdsourcing.
Small general information about the crowdsourcing by Jeff Howe.
The second part of my post is the actual issues to discuss.
I give you one of interesting ways to use CS in biotech science and here is a small TED talk by Ellen Jorgensen, one of pioneers of DIY bio.
Direct link to the site article >>
This film is only a sample of specific use of the idea of Crowdsourcing. I would like to encourage you to use some imagination and try to predict the ways it could be use.
The Crowdsourcing subject is very wide and I am aware that a lot o people are against that kind of work assuming they will loose their jobs. I ask you to avoid that kind of assumptions and try to focus not on prejudice but on benefits.
My questions for a current discussions are:
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
Thank you all for watching this and answer some questions.
Rafał, thanks for these very interesting materials (it is nice to watch than read from time to time). A topic which was covered in the mentioned video at the first glance looks funny and is easy. At the beginning I had a thought – what a great idea! All can be by famous biologists. We had to check all issues of the inner structure and we will be able to improve a lots of things! That is amazing! We will be as a God, almost. But next I thought about all these evil people who will try to destroy our world and I got scared. Generally I reckon this open community to be as a God is not good idea. Nevertheless in my opinion Crowdsourcing idea it is a very good one to develop all issues and ideas around the world. This way people can gather and resolve for example social problems, software problems and more and more others. In my opinion human mind is unpredictable and everybody can discover new ideas not only researchers. From time to time we can find for example in social media news about children, teenagers or young people who discover new, incredible ideas or new, innovative products. Everybody can be as Elon Musk.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your opinion. I was afraid that at the last week of English course there will be no interest in giving any opinion.
DeleteYou got right. That's why I showed you this subject. The idea of crowdsourcing is very nice and very helpful in some fields of research.
The dangerous is like every time in humans. This could the biggest strengths and weakness. It all about human nature.
This is very similar like discovery of atomic fission. It was not mean to be use as a atom bomb.
I will try follow the future of this kind of work.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteI think that if you are participating in crowdsourcing, then you need to have a lot of time. So, you are limited by your time, and the company which benefits from crowdsourcing is limited by the time of crowdsourcers. Unless the company has some ingenious or immersive idea (like testing beta version of video games, for example), then the crowdsourcing can be problematic.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
I'm not sure what kind of security you're asking about. I think you are calling the situation with a man who found a dog owner by using some biological research. While it's about the dog, I think it's ok, but if he'd try to use biology to get some information about his neighbours then I think that'd be a crime.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
That's one of the best questions asked here during the semester. It's a very hard question. But I think we can put it under consideration. Maybe it will not replace the old model, but thanks to that, it would be easier to start the company with just an idea.
At first thank you for your reply.
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You got right. Not all kind of work are able to be resolved with help of crowsourcers. But I was curious if you could find any kind of examples witch can not be resolved with that.
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I am aware that this question was very wide. But I was interest in the particular situation that was mentioned in the movie. Ellen Jorgensen shared their DNA to public. What would happen if our own DNA would be shared? Who is the owner of our own DNA?
And to answer your doubt. This conclude situation. Why searching dogs biology, according to you is not a crime but searching human DNA is? What about the biology samples is the crime scene?
I think it implies a lot of question that we are not able to answer because there are no regulation for that yet.
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I appreciate your opinion. Complete replacement of traditional model is not possible. I think there will be new ways of work or take part in achievements. The idea is most valuable, the rest is just a team work. Of course I am not trying to depreciate the value of work. I am just pointing that it is hard to get a real good idea.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteObviously crowdsourcing limits are wide, we can do a lot in this model, but there are some professions where it is impossible i.e. hospitals. Wherever it is important to have physical contact between people it is impossible. However not always it is good to work in this model.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
I would not say that everybody know all about each other. I think that it is great to share knowledge among people, especially those who are interested in topic. I have some doubts about real inventions, because people who are learning from scratch are not inventing something relevant and there is high probability of risk that they will work on bioterrorism as the lady said. Is really sharing some DNA data that risky? I don’t see why it would be.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
I think it is good to have chance to work in model of CS, but it will not replace standard model. It is chance for people who like to explore science and try to learn new things. Private ideas are very good, because mostly that is when magic happens and we face new discoveries.
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DeleteThank you for the reply
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That is good example. Theoretically not all kind of work are able to be done with CS. Human to human interaction is one of the them. But we could imagine situation where people are using social networks to share their health status to find a disease or cure. I am aware that it is very controversial example but this is a CS example. Of course it is hard to compare with regular visit to doctor :)
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I see you point of view.
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I am not suggest to replace current models, I just look for an opportunity for people who prefer work alone or do not have budget to create a working company. I could imagine that they could use some CS platform and develop some ideas that normally are out out reach because of their lack of resources.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteI think such limit doesn't exist. Crowdsourcing is just a mean to finance certain things. It acts as an alternative to bank loan, shares issue, bonds placement etc. So the only limit I can think of in the context of crowdsourcing would be the same as "old economy" financing methods limit, which simply doesn't exist.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
I think that transparency among crowdsources is good thing, as it increases the credibility of the venture. However if one is involved in many crowdsourcing projects, one automatically sends signal to the society that he/she has a lot of funds that can be utilised in many ways, which might be potential target for thieves.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
Crowdsourcing in my opinion can be alternative work type in the future, one of many, as majority of projects will still be utilised in the traditional manner.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteI think that we should use corwdsourcing as some sort another opinion but not solution. I think that one of crowdsourcing limit is medicine, I would not like to have treatment based on crowd opinion (this would be horrible).
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
You have provided answer in your question. If one person wil get information about another person life he would use this information for some not legal ways.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
No I don't think that this is our future. It can go in some sort of specialist brainstorming (ie ideas about treatment given by doctors), but it won't be use at large scale.
Today, crowdsourcing applies to a wide range of sectors and can be divided into many different categories. Crowdfunding, crowdwisdom and crowdsourced design are among the most popular ones. Crowdsourcing is based on the idea that union is strength and more heads are better than one. The way companies use this collaborative model highly depends on their business strategy.
ReplyDeleteIt nice to remember that Crowdsourcing can rapidly turn into nightmares when it is not properly handled.
When a crowd feels that the crowdsourcing company may not be treating them fairly or if they consider that the information provided by the company is not sufficient, they are more likely to express their discontent.
The other source of crowd-resistance includes manipulation. Manipulation can be particularly dangerous for crowdsourcing companies. Indeed, if one of the members strongly disagrees with the company’s rules or actions, he may try to sow discord and influence the rest of the community.
Apart from the risk of crowd-resistance, answer could be affected by the bad quality of the results delivered by your ‘virtual’ recipients. This happens particularly when you fail to give clear instructions to the crowd or to filter applicants.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion crowdsourcing is great for works that can be done remotely, especially if some kind of brainstorming is required.
Otherwise I don't think it can work. I can't for example imagine crowdsourced road building. To put it simply, and probably making a sweeping statement, I think the greatest limitation of crowdsourcding is anything requiring manual work.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
If everyone knows everything about, well, everything there's always a risk of data disclosure. This of course may be crucial to the company depending on the trade and current project.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
Since in the first question I've stated that crowdsourcing does indeed have its limitations, I don't believe it will replace the standard model. I do think that it will be used more and more often and in fact I hope for such a scenario because that's how great ideas are born.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to answer. From what we can see right now, there is none. We are the limit, our wallets to be more precise. Company budgets and so on.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
Is it really an issue? The idea is to share problems across the community to find the solution as fast as possible with minimal cost. If someone thinks it's ok, where is the problem?
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
I don't think so. Especially with such complicated Tax system like ours. Money flow is being controlled in a very restrictive way and it won't change. Certain people will work for free, just for fun and to help, but some of them will need some money for their help. It's hard to predict future with our government.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion there are few limits of crowdsourcing work. First of all, the willingness of involvement of people. If too few people get involved in some CS work, the results can be unsatisfactory and insufficient. And the second one is time. Many tasks require a lot of time that can’t be overcome.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
For me it is a kind of problem but it depends on what information would be shared. If it is a DNA code, it is a big problem because it can be used unpredictably, f.e. to clone somebody or to involve someone in a crime. You never know who is really on the other side.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? Where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
I think that crowdsourcing work has a future. However I’m not sure if it would displace ordinary form of work or even private companies. In CS work slumbers huge potential – it can help solve important problems or can give new inventions or discoveries.
I agree with the previous speakers. TO me the limit of crowdsourcing would be definitely using it to solve medical issues and treat people. Of course, I guess it would be fine if by crowd, one would mean "real doctors", not "Google treatment specialists". When it comes to security problem, it really depens on what kind of information is shared. I'm not sure if sharing one's DNA is the best idea, the consequences can be really scary, if it falls into unauthorised hands. I guess crowdsourcing is an interesting way to solve some issues or to gather opinions on a particular subject, but I wouldn't go that far so as to say that it's the future way of work. Certain things cannot be accomplished that way.
ReplyDelete1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteI’m not sure of that. It is like crowdfounding for me. The idea is fantastic but it very fragile and can be used for different types of scams. I think that this is not the way, is only and nice idea but we, as a community are not ready for that
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
I will answer with a question. Would you like to be in such place ? As for me….no way. We all have things that we want to keep for us and there are always things that should be private.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
No. I think that our current system is good. I don’t see future for CS as a way of work. Maybe I don’t see all the positives but the negatives are the things that we should be afraid of.
Thank you for interesting materials. The approach is quite old but recently refreshed and systematized. In recent years, people observed that such actions can bring a lot to the company. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of time and a very creative and committed employees. Of course, it is connected with huge threats to privacy but it also gives huge opportunities (especially as in the article when we examine the DNA). Very often new ideas in large corporations come from a very thorough analysis of the preferences of potential customers - where the analysis is very deep and goes much further than simple surveys.
ReplyDelete1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteIt is really for me hard to say anything about the limits. It seems that as long as people are willing to donate crowdsourcing will work. The higher number of crowdsourcing platforms (the markets) and higher number of participants means greater dispersion and lower chance of a success.
The limits may involve the categories of the sellable products.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
I am afraid I don't know about what security you are asking.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
For me, crowdsourcing seems a great idea for the first launching business or a new line of products for an example which eventually leads to a state when a new entrepreneur enter the market. It is just an another way of financing a business. Maybe, I just don't understand it and underestimate the potential of platforms.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteProbably the imagination of the participants.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
For sure nothing should be done against the law, but except that I don't see any threats.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
I think there is a place for both of them.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion the limit is not the possibilities of croudsourcing but the practical issues that do not come to mind while first starting with the idea - such as regulatory, organizational, pragmatic...
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
I agree with some of the students' opinion that such place would not be the best one. I am strongly in favor of high level of privacy regardless of some one in a million issues that it might cause
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
That might one of the possible outcomes in the future. I would definitely see it as more private ideas emerging without the help of huge investment and huge company behind.
Hello, in my opinion idea of crowdsourcing is quite good and it can be additional impact for organisation development. We can use external resources. The weak point in my opinion of this "approach" is quality of served or received services. Second thing is an security mentioned is second question. I think that it is a weakness ... And I do not think so can it be a future way of work. It can be good for startups and small companies, which are not able to spend money for some kind of services.
ReplyDeleteAt the beginning I would like to apologies that I have little time spare for this article so I didn't watch second video.
ReplyDelete1. What is the limit of the crowd-sourcing work?
This is hard to me to discover this technology limit because I didn't spend to much time in this fresh concept.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
There is unique auction portal in Poland survive years that should be considered like crowd sourcing archetype. Ask them how they develop.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
Develop rare idea that could survive in current market is a tremendous achievement.
1. What is the limit of the crowdsourcing work?
ReplyDeleteThere is no limit for crowdsourcing work maybe only our imagination.
2. What is the problem with security in place where everybody know all about each other?
It is only illusion of knowing everything, You will know what others wan't you to know.
3. Could CS be the future way of work? where there is no private companies but only private ideas?
Yes crowdsourcing could be workforce management solution but will not replace private held companies.